Anyone??

Thanks for the feedback Brent. Well, I´m the first to say that "chase"-systems who use martingale is absolute crap, terrible moneymanagement. But only flatbetting the C-bets in Morrissons system is statistically really good, they went 18-3 last season (not many plays but with that record you can bet larger stakes), and when you haven´t lost money betting the A and B-bets then you don´t have bet to "catch up".
Of Course there isn´t such a thing as a "system that cannot fail" and will never be.
As for Sportpicks365, I have been following them for quite some time and they have delivered really good results (and money). They have ups and downs, but as long as it´s profitable I´m sticking with them.
I was just wondering if someone else in this forum know about some other service/handicapper/etc who is good so that I cn increase my bets.My aim is to have somewhere betwen 5-15 bets per day and win 65-70% of them.

RyanH wrote:

Brent: I really like to analyse and make my own bets, but with a full time job, wife and 2 kids I don´t really have the time. I like the "action" and if you are winning it´s even better.

Thanks for clarifying Ryan - I know the feeling and I often run out of time to do the research I would like to.

Yeah Ruggabugga, excellent night yesterday! That´s my philosophy as well, look at sport and make money at the same time.
Regarding sportpicks365, you can check out www.sportpicks365.com.

Morrisons system is a chase system, but "properly" used it could be a goldmine. The system works like this: Team A gets swept by team B in a 3-game series. The next time these teams meet you should (according to the system) bet on Team A until they win. If you skip betting the first 2 games in the 3-series and only bet the third game (Team A has now lost 5 in a row) then this is working excellent. (Bet ML if the team is favourite and +1.5 if the team is a underdog).
Well this is working for me, is there anyone else who can recommend a good handicapper/sports service or system??

Hey Ryan,
that strategy of backing a team that's been on a losing streak is something i loosely follow myself. 1 example where i'll use it is in UK Football on home win statistics, goes a bit like this:

It's quite early in the season now, but over coming weeks you'll see fewer and fewer teams without a home win. Now you know every team is going get 1 sooner or later, it's just a matter of deciding when to get behind them. I'll normally start taking the home team in a double result, so win+draw, as the pattern will often be 1 of no longer losing but still not getting the elusive home win. It's good for acca's or double bets.

Anyway not really a strategy like the ones you have to pay for, but 1 that has brought me success in past.

Hi Ryan, I am assuming you are not based in SA?

Your post is very interesting in that it raises a question in my mind:

It has recently been clarified that for local punters to bet with off shore bookmakers is illegal (although if you have a bank account in the UK for example then I THINK it is ok)

Clearly the likes of SportsPicks365 are based overseas but if I understand correctly this is a tipping service not a bookie so I would imagine that paying for information from them is fine (a bit like buying any other product) as long as you use the information locally?

The figures above are certainly impressive.

Regards my strategy:

First and foremost I am a value seeker and I hold a range of accounts to ensure that I always get the best deal and maximise profits while minimizing losses.
This is especially true in spreads where I use the example that by holding multiple accounts in the S14 you can benefit from at least 1 unit per game on average - at R100 a unit thats a difference of R9400 over the tournament.

I play the sports I historically do well at, mainly rugby where I focus on spreads where I climb in when I believe that the potential upside is far greater than the potential downside - not correct all the time but overall this has worked for me.

The other key thing for me was to build a bankroll which has taken the pressure off and means I can absorb the odd knock. This has been very relevant with my poor friday night rugger form in recent weeks.

An excellent site for footie especially if you are looking for value is Title.They are hitting around the 60% mark this season.Whats unique about these guys is that they give punts on the lower leagues of english football(League 2,CONFERENCE and even the UNIBOND,ISTHMIAN leagues ).You are usually betting at evens or better with regards to odds.They give excellent writeups and suggest how much to stake on each bet.They went 4-1 last week!AND ITS FREE!!!

Thanks for all the great info & tips!

Brent: No, I´m not from SA. I live in the UK and Sportpicks365 is not a bookie, only a site where you can buy plays (actually 4-0 last 2 days).
Regarding your rugby-bets, do you bet only on "feeling" or do you have some kind of statistical info as well?

Rogerollo: I also get Flo Koerners e-mails and he is OK, it´s not like I "fall off the chair" but he´s alright.

Hello, is there anyone out there? I´m just trying to get a discussion going here that can benefit everybody....

Hi guys, my two cents worth.

I suppose if you approach sports betting like one would the share market then I'm sure there are some decent products out there that can help one find value and trends.

But as is the case with shares I feel that if you have enough info available and stick to your area of expertise then you will do fine on your own. In this case "area of expertise" is the sport/s that you are most familliar with. After 10, 20 or even more years of watching F1 grand prixs at Monaco, I think you probaly know what to expect and don't need a "tipster" to tell you that the guy on pole is far and away the favourite and that there is a high probability of many crashes and a few safety cars. The same goes I'm sure for Brent and most of us on here for the rugby. We've seen it all before and trust our knowledge of the game to help us call it right. Of course this can go horribly wrong (this weekend's rugga a case in point for me!) but sport is sport and I feel that an "upset" is part of the beauty of the game and can make any punter, tipster or product look stupid!

Of course I do see your point that for the lesser leagues and matches you could make some money, but for me personally the betting is just a way for me to put my money where my mouth is. It's easy chatting with colleagues on a Monday and saying that all your predictions that you made on Friday were correct... But it gets a whole lot more interesting if you have some money on the line!

Perhaps I'm just not a serious enough punter. I'm just a sports fan. I leave the charts, graphs and probabilites for business. This is leasure!

Is there really noone who have some sort of bettingstrategy?
I have for example a few rules I like to follow: Never bet a favourite when the odds is worse than 11/20 (1.55 or -181).
Never bet a team with a losing streak.
Be patient, there are days when there really isn´t worth betting because the odds is to low. Wait until you find bets you really think have a good chance of winning.

Anyone else have some "betting-rules" they live by?

Hey RyanH

My betting rules:
- Dont bet on or against the team you support (Clouds your judgement!)
- Dont chase losses
- Set a maximum bet
- Dont bet the RL on home teams in Baseball
- Always bet on the Yankees if CC Sabatha is pitching
- Handicap Rugby games before the bookies, bet on the game with the biggest variance
- In Running Rugby bets, if the HT cap is 20pts different to opening cap. Go big on the difference! E.g. SA v Aus last weekend. SA are -8.5 before kick off, at HT SA are +12. Go big on SA+12. Usually equals cash
- Alwyas bet on the + in Finals!

RuggaBugga wrote:

Hey RyanH

- Handicap Rugby games before the bookies, bet on the game with the biggest variance
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RB, That is one I like to follow.

Another one :- Never banker an away team in multiples

RB: Really interested in your rugby-theory, do you have any stats on it??

Both 2 - 1 winners!

Thanks guys, worked out perfect yesterday.
RB: Thanks alot for the input, I will definetely follow this trend in the future.

What a great game between Man U-L'Pool!! And also great that United managed to win.....
Parma was a no play for me due to the fact that Luca Toni started (and scored) for Genoa.
Let's continue this run!!!

/Ryan

Ive never payed for a tipster service because theres plenty of free good ones out there. For UK soccer I use this site because the tipster finds good value and is often right
http://www.premiershiptips.com/premierl … ember-1819

Brent G: Great basics that every bettor should follow!

T-Rac: Thanks for the tip, always appreciated.

Ruggabugga: Check their website www.sportpicks365.com, I paid 799 us dollars for 6 months. It´s a lot of money, but It´s been worth the money so far.

For tonight I think that Sunderland crushes West Ham, 1.80 on Sunderland is way too high (Sportpicks365 has also got them tonight).


Best of luck tonight!

Burnley @ 1.70 (unfortunately the odds has dropped a bit). I really think that Burnley will run over Bristol C today. (sportpicks365 is on them as well). I´m playing all their 6 picks today, they are actually on a 16-3 run at the moment.
Then I would like to add a personal pick: Cardiff LIVE (1-1 at the moment) at home to Millwall.

BOL!

Yes Fastden, I believe they are 33-31 +195 USD so far this month after really struggling in the beginning of September. However they are on a 18-4 run at the moment. I keep my own records just to see that they don´t mix their records. I tried a couple of guys at Vegastopdogs last year and they faked their records pretty good....
I noticed that Burnley had 11 shots on goal and Bristol C had 2, should habe won. Lost a lot on that one.... Fortunately Cardiff won against Millwall so I got a little back.

It looks like that, they were 4-2 yesterday and are 4-2 for today with LA Angels -1.5 left for tonight...

Hi Ryan
how is Morrison's system doing with the A-B-C  bets this month?

Chelsea will run over Arsenal tomorrow.... 1.75 is way too high!

Well, Chelsea did beat Arsenal but it was closer than I thaught. But a win is a win...
Does anyone in here like hockey? I´ve really been struggling with this sport, every thaught would be appreciated.

So I guess no hockeyfans in here...?

OK, I meant ICE-Hockey. I´m so bored when there´s no soccer to bet on at the moment. I hate these Qualification rounds..... Can´t wait until next saturday when the Premiership is back!

How wonderful it is when all the european leagues are back on track again!

I´ve put money on Bournemouth @ 2.25 and Roma @ 1.95. Then Sportpicks365 has got Ipswich @ 1.80 and Atletico Madrid @ 1.85 in the madrid derby. These are my plays for the day. Anyone got a winner for today?

Hi Justin, Thanks for the advice regarding hockey. I also think that Over/Under is the best way to approach NHL, there are so many games in the regular season so it´s hard for a team to stay focused the entire season.
Regarding Coversexpert, I have tried Ben Burns, Matt Fargo and "Big Al" - All three made me lose money. They talked big and provided little......
The only service I´m currently paying for is Sportpicks365.com and they have made me good money. Then I also like to play the C-bets in Morrisons systems. And my own bets of course!

Well well, 3-1 yesterday. I´ll try to find some more winners for tomorrow.
Goodnight!

Thanks Fastden! I think Mallorca are going to run over Espanyol at home today, Mallorca is one of Spains best hometeams (except from the big clubs) and Espanyol have a worthless awayrecord.(Sportpicks365 has also got them and Cagliari +0.5).
Sportpicks365 had 3 College Football plays yesterday and went 1-2 on these. The only plays I don´t follow are their Baseballplays, they have NOT been making me money.

BOL Today!

Well, Preston was a disappointment in midweek. I´ll try to get back to winning ways with Fiorentina @ 1.80 tomorrow, I think it´s really time for Viola to get a win.
Anyone else who have got a good bet for the weekends soccer?

Arsenal @ 1.85 is a superb odds tonight, Wenger is looking for a trophy....

BOL

Fulham @ 1.90 is my pick of the day. I´ve also made a large bet on Shrewsbury -1 asian ("Top Play" from Sportpicks365) @ 1.97.

BOL today!

That Fulham pick yesterday was a very good call, I stayed a million miles from that game as Wigan are so hard to catch right, imo.

Overs in Bolton v Liverpool my preference for today m8

Palermo had 10-4 in shots on goal, 61-39 possession and still lost, football isn't always fair..... Well well, I still made a profit because Sportpicks365.

I will be back with a new winning pick later this week


Best regards/

Nice one BB! Keep 'em coming.

My bets for the day: Colchester 1.85 (my own), Carlisle 1.80 (Top play Sportpicks365) and Crewe 2.35 (Sportpicks365).

Let's go 3-0!!

I see the line is now +19, Morrison's  members climbed in....
Hard  to find a local bookie that offers handicaps. on  nba

Not sure where you got the +21 Ryan? Line started at Magic  -16.5 and is up to -18.5 so money is getting down on the Magic!

Be cautious though, the Magic were supposed to play the Knicks last night but match was canned due to the roof falling apart 
TWolves got blown out 129-97 by the Heat last night and may have Michael Beasley out injured for the Orlando match (He missed the 2nd half last night and is one of their starters), they lost their previous match 109-89 away Memphis. They are just plain bad on the road!!!

Magic won first home game 112-83, then lost to Miami away, they are well rested and back at home looking to get win number 2 in style!

BetX are +18 at 19/20, I wouldnt go against the Magic at home against

So let me get this Morrison system. You get an A, B and a C system with one side?
You buy the 3 points on Bet A so R100 makes R55 profit if wins. It Loses.
Its a chase system so you need to increase the B bet to R300 to win R165 (Less R100 lost on first bet = R65 profit), It Loses.
Now you are down R400 and in order to win you need to put R850 at 1.55 to win R467.50, less R400 lost and up R67.50!  It that loses you are down R1250 from backing a bad team???     THATS MADNESS!!!

Can see why you only play the C bets RyanH, our SA bookies dont let you buy 3 points.
Good luck tonight

Magic 128 Twolves 86. Dont say I didnt warn you

Nothing personal Ryan but I cant stand Systems in sports betting! Need to look at team news and the Twolves losing one of their starters was huge! Just feel for the poor mugs who have been on this series and lost big ammo.

Todays Soccer Picks: Charlton @ 1.80 is my pick of the day. Sportpicks365.com have got Brentford -1 asian @ 2.20, Yeovil @ 2.40 and Hull @ 2.00.

BOL as always!

Back to winning ways yesterday, had a lot of money on a double with Palermo and Milan... Let´s keep this going!

Thanks Rugga! Actually been making some decent money a while now.. I´ll try Everton @ 1.70 and Newcastle @ 1.95 (Sportpicks365)tonight. Then I´ve also put money on Chicago Blackhawks @ 2.00 in the NHL as Sportpicks365 has got it as a top play.
I have got a Superplay coming up this weekend, watch this thread on saturday morning.

BOL!

Swansea was a good winner, I really hate this kind of midweek breaks due to international friendlies. I´ll be back with a new winner(hopefully) on saturday...

Nurnberg @ 2.00 is my pick of the day (Sporpticks365 has got M´Boro @ 2.00 & Shrewsbury @ 1.90). Then there is a C-bet on Phoenix Suns tonight (Do what you want with it....).

BOL!

Status quo after yesterdays plays, today I´m on Chelsea 1.70 & Bilbao 1.78.

BOL!

0-2 Midweek.... Leeds @ 1.80 & Mainz asian 0 @ 2.40 today.

BOL

1-0 yesterday as Barnsley (2.40) won. Today I´m playing Mallorca -1 asian @ 2.35 & Bilbao @ 2.05.

BOL!

jd's betting tips for saturday.

barcelona and st ettien double
n forest
nac breda

Lazio was a real thriller yesterday, today I´ll go with Racing Santander @ 1.95 (Hercules misses 7 regular players due to suspensions and injuries....).

BOL!

2-0 last week. Today: Sunderland 1.90

Happy new year and BOL!

Let´s make it 5 in a row with Parma 2.05 today.

BOL!

Atletico Madrid 1.85 for today. Both Aguero and Reyes are back and will play today....

GL!